Jay Stanley challenges Ian Grossman's digital-ID consumer-choice argument
The ACLU's Jay Stanley disputes Ian Grossman's assurance that consumers will decide where to use digital IDs. Grossman, who leads the motor vehicle administrators' association, told PBS adoption is voluntary. Stanley argues the IDs could become a practical requirement.
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Overview
Grossman says consumers can choose when to identify themselves and describes digital-ID adoption as voluntary. Stanley also spoke in the July PBS report, then challenged Grossman's consumer-choice argument in an October essay. He argues that businesses and public services may stop supporting alternatives. Both discuss privacy protections, including limits on systems reporting ID use back to government.
Timeline
2 timeline entries on this page. Dates: July 8, 2026 to October 22, 2026
July 2026
PBS publishes the digital-ID interviews
Source release
Grossman describes voluntary adoption and consumer choice. Stanley argues for a legal right to keep using a physical license.
[01]PBS interviews Ian Grossman and Jay Stanley about mobile ID
Source excerpt
I think overall, the consumer will drive that demand and they will decide where they want to accept to be identified versus where they're gonna look for another alternative where they want to stay anonymous
PBS quotes Grossman on consumer choice and voluntary adoption, and Stanley on legal protections for alternatives. The article also describes AAMVA's prohibition on phone-home architecture.
PBS interviews Ian Grossman and Jay Stanley about mobile IDA potential boon for surveillance pricing; What's next?
October 2026
Stanley challenges the consumer-choice assurance
Reaction
Stanley argues that changing infrastructure and business practices can make an initially optional technology difficult to avoid.
[02]Jay Stanley challenges digital-ID consumer-choice assurances
Source excerpt
It’s a very comforting thought that we as consumers will have the power to stop omnipresent ID demands by, apparently, simply voting with our pocketbooks. If only we could have any faith that will be true.
Stanley uses the July interview to question whether market choice will preserve practical alternatives to digital identification.
Jay Stanley challenges digital-ID consumer-choice assurancesOpening discussion of Grossman's PBS interview and optional tools becoming requirements
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Disputed claim
Consumer choice will allow people to decide where to identify themselves with digital ID and where to remain anonymous.
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- PBS interviews Ian Grossman and Jay Stanley about mobile IDA potential boon for surveillance pricing; What's next?
Response record
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Jay StanleyACLU senior policy analystDirectly involved Before this statement
Stanley quotes Grossman's July assurance that consumers will decide where they are identified.
"It’s a very comforting thought that we as consumers will have the power to stop omnipresent ID demands by, apparently, simply voting with our pocketbooks. If only we could have any faith that will be true."
Challenged the characterizationResponding to: Consumer choice will allow people to decide where to identify themselves with digital ID and where to remain anonymous.
Full statement and sources
Stanley rejects confidence that consumer spending choices alone will preserve alternatives to digital identification.
After the statement
Stanley then cites urban planning researcher Seth LaJeunesse's account of how new technologies can move from optional to effectively required, and applies it to digital IDs.
Jay Stanley challenges digital-ID consumer-choice assurancesOpening discussion of Grossman's PBS interview and optional tools becoming requirementsWhy this label?
The subject is reliance on consumer choice as protection against digital ID becoming a practical requirement. Stanley rejects confidence that consumer spending choices alone will preserve alternatives to digital identification.
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Ian GrossmanAAMVA president and chief executive officerDirectly involved Before this statement
PBS publishes the interview on July 8. It raises the possibility that easier identification could expand profiling and surveillance pricing.
"I think overall, the consumer will drive that demand and they will decide where they want to accept to be identified versus where they're gonna look for another alternative where they want to stay anonymous"
Defended or excusedResponding to: Consumer choice will allow people to decide where to identify themselves with digital ID and where to remain anonymous.
Full statement and sources
Grossman argues that consumers will decide where to identify themselves and where to seek anonymous alternatives.
After the statement
Grossman also says adoption is voluntary and nobody is being forced to use digital ID. PBS reports that AAMVA standards prohibit phone-home architecture.
PBS interviews Ian Grossman and Jay Stanley about mobile IDA potential boon for surveillance pricing; What's next?Why this label?
The subject is reliance on consumer choice as protection against digital ID becoming a practical requirement. Grossman argues that consumers will decide where to identify themselves and where to seek anonymous alternatives.
This label describes the statement's response within the context above.
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Interview
PBS interviews Ian Grossman and Jay Stanley about mobile ID
Relevant passage: A potential boon for surveillance pricing; What's next?
Excerpt
"I think overall, the consumer will drive that demand and they will decide where they want to accept to be identified versus where they're gonna look for another alternative where they want to stay anonymous"
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PBS quotes Grossman on consumer choice and voluntary adoption, and Stanley on legal protections for alternatives. The article also describes AAMVA's prohibition on phone-home architecture.
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Analysis
Jay Stanley challenges digital-ID consumer-choice assurances
Relevant passage: Opening discussion of Grossman's PBS interview and optional tools becoming requirements
Excerpt
"It’s a very comforting thought that we as consumers will have the power to stop omnipresent ID demands by, apparently, simply voting with our pocketbooks. If only we could have any faith that will be true."
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Stanley uses the July interview to question whether market choice will preserve practical alternatives to digital identification.
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