Ravid Shwartz-Ziv says the results are less dramatic than the warning
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Ravid Shwartz-Ziv calls Anthropic's work interesting engineering but says it is not yet evidence of AI worms spreading on their own in the real world, and that running a very slow model on cheap TVs would make a less dramatic headline.
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Small AI models may be months away from being capable enough to self-replicate on commercial internet-of-things devices, such as smart ovens and off-brand Android TV boxes.
“The reality is a bit less dramatic, of course. ... Interesting engineering? Absolutely. Evidence of AI worms spreading autonomously through the real world? Not yet. But “we managed to run a very slow model on cheap TVs” doesn't make quite the same headline as “self-replicating AI is coming.””
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Anthropic says small AI models may be months from being able to self-replicate on smart devices; critics question its experiments
Anthropic researchers say their experiments suggest small AI models may be months away from being capable enough to self-replicate on commercial internet-connected devices such as smart ovens and Android TV boxes. Critics, including Gregory Kurtzer and Ravid Shwartz-Ziv, say the tests were simplified and do not show self-replication.
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Shwartz-Ziv summarizes what Anthropic's experiments did and argues that they are not evidence of AI worms spreading in the real world.
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Fortune reports on Anthropic's research and on criticism from Gregory Kurtzer and Ravid Shwartz-Ziv, and notes the limits Anthropic acknowledged in its post.
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Shwartz-Ziv quote-posts a summary of Anthropic's warning and presents his post as a guide to reading the company's announcements.
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The omitted middle of the post says the researchers ran a model across 15 Android TV boxes at 0.39 tokens per second, and that the replication test used deliberately unauthenticated ports while the capable model ran on separate servers.
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The reference point is Anthropic's statement that its experiments suggest small AI models may be months away from being capable enough to self-replicate on commercial internet-of-things devices. Challenged characterization: he credits the engineering but disputes how the results were presented, saying they are not yet evidence of autonomous spread. The closest competing label is Condemned; it loses because his objection targets the framing of the findings rather than rejecting the research.
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Read the full caseThe Register's Brandon Vigliarolo says the warning deserves an asterisk
“Nothing sells AI products as well as fear. Using new research, Anthropic claims that self-replicating AI worms could be just months away from spreading across vulnerable IoT devices, which would be a problem if it came true. ... Doing more than a cursory reading of this report suggests that this threat is just as deserving of a big, honking asterisk as the rest.”Read statement
Ethan Mollick calls the research a worthwhile reminder
“A worthwhile (and unnerving) reminder from Anthropic that we should be paying attention to AI ability thresholds, not just steady climbs In this case, the threshold is the capability needed for a self-replicating AI worm on IoT devices like off-brand TVs”Read statement
Gregory Kurtzer says the experiments were engineered to succeed
“AI models can self-replicate and spread like worms without datacenter infrastructure? Yeah, no. ... The experiment was engineered to succeed, and even then, it failed to demonstrate the headline. ... Stop confusing speculative scenarios with demonstrated capabilities. Fear isn't evidence.”Read statement
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