Grassley says Smith "sought the toll records of 16 Members of Congress" and sought orders "to hide his effort from Members"

Chuck GrassleyChairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, in his opening statement as prepared for the hearing

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Chairman Chuck Grassley's opening remarks at the Senate Judiciary Committee's Sept. 29, 2026 hearing with former special counsel Jack Smith.

Excerpt from 31:36 to 37:25 of the committee's archived hearing video. DI added its logo in the corner.

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In his opening statement as prepared for the September 29 hearing, Chairman Chuck Grassley said the government sought toll records from at least four members of Congress before Smith, that Smith sought the toll records of 16 members and also obtained the content of member communications, breaching Speech or Debate, and that Smith sought nondisclosure orders to hide the effort from members while apparently failing to tell the court who the targets were.

Responding to

Sen. Chuck Grassley said that Jack Smith sought the toll records of 16 members of Congress, that the government sought toll records from at least four members before Smith, and that Smith's team also obtained the content of member communications, breaching the Speech or Debate Clause.

“Before Jack Smith, the government sought toll records from at least four Members of Congress. Jack Smith sought the toll records of 16 Members of Congress and also obtained the content of Member communications, breaching Speech or Debate. ... Accordingly, Jack Smith’s secretive efforts obtained Member toll records and, ultimately, content. Then, he sought Non-Disclosure Orders to hide his effort from Members, while also apparently failing to apprise the court of the targets.”

Original video

Watch the original video (opens in a new tab)Oversight of Jack Smith's Abuse of Authority and the Targeting of Republicans and Related Matters (hearing video) · Senate Committee on the JudiciaryChairman Grassley's opening remarks, about 0:31:39 to 0:37:05 on the archived video timeline (toll-record passages at 0:31:44-0:32:26 and 0:36:42-0:37:05)

Official statement

Read the official statement (opens in a new tab)Grassley Opens Senate Judiciary Oversight Hearing on Arctic Frost and Jack Smith’s Abuse of Authority · Senate Committee on the JudiciaryPrepared opening statement, paragraphs on toll records, Speech or Debate, Non-Disclosure Orders and the 44 Members

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Where this statement fits

Were members of Congress's phone records and text messages properly obtained in the Arctic Frost and Jack Smith investigations?

On September 29, 2026, the Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing titled "Oversight of Jack Smith's Abuse of Authority and the Targeting of Republicans and Related Matters," with former special counsel Jack Smith as its only witness. Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and other Republicans said that Smith's team, in the FBI's Arctic Frost investigation and its own election case, obtained members of Congress's phone toll records and text messages, used nondisclosure orders to keep members from learning of it, and breached the Speech or Debate Clause. Smith said the toll records were non-content records obtained after he directed his staff to consult the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section, and that the nondisclosure orders were consistent with the law and Justice Department policy at the time. Ranking Member Dick Durbin (D-IL) called the attacks on Smith "petty, personal, and political." The sides and the documents give different counts of the members affected. The dispute is whether the collection of members' phone records and messages was proper.

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Original video

Oversight of Jack Smith's Abuse of Authority and the Targeting of Republicans and Related Matters (hearing video) (opens in a new tab) · Senate Committee on the JudiciaryChairman Grassley's opening remarks, about 0:31:39 to 0:37:05 on the archived video timeline (toll-record passages at 0:31:44-0:32:26 and 0:36:42-0:37:05)

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Senate Judiciary Committee's archived video of the September 29, 2026 hearing. In his opening remarks Chairman Chuck Grassley gave the committee majority's account of the toll records, the text messages and the nondisclosure orders.

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Official statement

Grassley Opens Senate Judiciary Oversight Hearing on Arctic Frost and Jack Smith’s Abuse of Authority (opens in a new tab) · Senate Committee on the JudiciaryPrepared opening statement, paragraphs on toll records, Speech or Debate, Non-Disclosure Orders and the 44 Members

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The committee majority's posting of Chairman Grassley's prepared opening statement for the September 29, 2026 hearing. The wording of his delivered remarks differs slightly in places.

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Before the quotation

Grassley opened the committee's September 29, 2026 hearing with Smith as its only witness. Before reaching the toll records, his statement gave the committee majority's account of how Arctic Frost opened in April 2022 and passed to Smith in November 2022.

After the quotation

The statement went on to say Smith subpoenaed 87 Trump White House phones, knowing they would include communications with members, 44 members in all, and that he failed to filter out Speech or Debate privileged information. Grassley delivered the toll-record figures at the hearing in nearly the same words.

How this statement is classified

Condemned

The label describes this statement's response within the context above.

Why this label?

The case asks whether the collection of members' phone records and messages was proper. Grassley said Smith sought the toll records of 16 members, obtained the content of member communications in breach of Speech or Debate, and sought nondisclosure orders to hide the effort from members. That rejects the collection as improper and unconstitutional, so we labeled it Condemned.

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