Thom Tillis calls “abolishing or demolishing” the Kennedy Center “absurd” and worrying about its name “kind of silly”

United States Senator for North Carolina, answering reporters’ questions on Capitol Hill

I think it’s absurd. Abolishing or demolishing a memorial [...] a worldwide known venue for arts.
Watch the original video (opens in a new tab)Forbes Breaking News video of Sen. Thom Tillis answering reporters on Capitol Hill, September 17, 2026 · Forbes0:00–0:05 reporter’s question; 0:05–0:19 quoted words; the answer runs to about 1:06
Open source (opens in a new tab)CNN transcript, Erin Burnett OutFront, September 17, 2026 (7 p.m. ET), segment 1: Tillis clip · CNNKennedy Center segment; the Tillis clip follows Burnett’s introduction and precedes her exchange with Ken Buck
Open source (opens in a new tab)CNN transcript, The Source with Kaitlan Collins, September 17, 2026 (9 p.m. ET), segment 1: Tillis and Britt clips · CNNTwo-speaker video clip (Tillis, then Britt) that precedes Collins’s introduction of Joshua Kolb
Open source (opens in a new tab)AP report syndicated by WCCB Charlotte: Judge orders Kennedy Center to provide 30 days’ notice before making any major physical changes · Associated PressCapitol Hill reaction section, last paragraph (Tillis)

Source and context

Original video

Forbes Breaking News video of Sen. Thom Tillis answering reporters on Capitol Hill, September 17, 2026 (opens in a new tab) · Forbes0:00–0:05 reporter’s question; 0:05–0:19 quoted words; the answer runs to about 1:06

About this source

Forbes Breaking News’s upload (3:31) of the hallway exchange, with an on-screen stamp “SEPTEMBER 17, 2026” and the lower third “SEN. THOM TILIS (R-NC) SPEAKS TO REPORTERS ON CAPITOL HILL” (the lower third misspells his surname). Audio downloaded and transcribed with mlx-whisper large-v3-turbo and cross-checked with whisper large-v3 and Parakeet TDT, which also records fillers. The video starts at the reporter’s question, so anything earlier in the scrum is not shown. Between “memorial” and “a worldwide known venue” the recording has hesitation fillers and one indistinct word (Parakeet “want”; CNN’s rush transcript “want --”); that stretch is omitted and marked [...].

Reporting

CNN transcript, Erin Burnett OutFront, September 17, 2026 (7 p.m. ET), segment 1: Tillis clip (opens in a new tab) · CNNKennedy Center segment; the Tillis clip follows Burnett’s introduction and precedes her exchange with Ken Buck

About this source

CNN rush transcript (“may not be in its final form”) of the clip CNN aired at 7 p.m. ET on September 17. It carries the same opening sentences as the Forbes recording, renders the hesitation as “want --” and adds “like that” after “arts”, and skips the middle of the answer. Used to confirm that the sentence about demolition was part of the answer CNN aired.

Reporting

CNN transcript, The Source with Kaitlan Collins, September 17, 2026 (9 p.m. ET), segment 1: Tillis and Britt clips (opens in a new tab) · CNNTwo-speaker video clip (Tillis, then Britt) that precedes Collins’s introduction of Joshua Kolb

About this source

CNN rush transcript of an edited clip. The excerpt omits the reporter’s question and the sentence naming demolition, so on its own it reads as if “absurd” were aimed at the naming dispute; the Forbes recording and CNN’s 7 p.m. transcript show it follows a question about demolishing the center.

Reporting

AP report syndicated by WCCB Charlotte: Judge orders Kennedy Center to provide 30 days’ notice before making any major physical changes (opens in a new tab) · Associated PressCapitol Hill reaction section, last paragraph (Tillis)

About this source

AP report as syndicated by WCCB Charlotte (page metadata: published 2026-09-17 21:15 UTC). The apnews.com original returned HTTP 403 to automated access, so this copy was read. AP attributes the “false crisis” and “kind of silly” language to Tillis and does not quote his sentence about demolition.

Before the quotation

The previous evening, President Trump told reporters in Charlotte that the Trump administration “should certainly have recognition” and, in the same answer, used the phrase “ripped down” about the center; AFP photographs from that night showed him looking at a poster that appears to read “Kennedy Center DEMOLISHED.” On September 17 a reporter on Capitol Hill asked Tillis whether he would support the president’s apparent speculation about the center’s future.

After the quotation

Asked in a follow-up whether the Kennedy Center needs an independent board, Tillis said “I think there’s something to be said for that.” CNN aired portions of the exchange that evening, and the Associated Press reported him calling the dispute a “false crisis.”

How this statement is classified

Condemned

Case context: Donald Trump's statements linking the Kennedy Center's renovation to recognition for his administration

The label describes this statement’s response within the context above.

Why this label?

The case’s fixed reference point is President Trump’s stated position that the Kennedy Center’s closure and renovation depend on recognition for his administration, as expressed in his Truth Social post of 2026-09-15 and reaffirmed in his remarks to reporters in Charlotte on 2026-09-16. Asked by a reporter whether he would support the president’s apparent speculation about the center’s future, Tillis answers “I think it’s absurd” about “abolishing or demolishing a memorial” and adds that worrying about the name is “kind of silly,” which rejects the outcome he names and treats the naming dispute as beside the point. The closest competing label is minimizes, because he also calls the naming dispute a distraction. That loses because his operative words answer the reporter’s question with an express rejection, which criticizes the position rather than downplaying its seriousness.

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Don Beyer

I keep wondering how insecure, how narcissistic, how egomaniacal you have to be to say you'll demolish a building if they don't put your name on it.
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Robert Garcia

Donald Trump has spent countless hours on ridiculous vanity projects instead of trying to tackle the sky-high cost of living or ending his failed war in Iran, and now he's threatening to tear down the Kennedy Center just because he can't slap his name on it. It's sad, shallow, and a disgrace to the institution which by law honors our 35th president. We will continue fighting this obsession and defend this national cultural center in Congress and the courts
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I don't mind doing the job, but if I do the job, I think the Trump administration, including Bobby, but the Trump administration should be recognized. Why should I raise and put up and do all of this work?
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