Doc Rivers questions Giannis Antetokounmpo's basketball IQ on a podcast; Antetokounmpo calls the remarks "crazy" and Rivers apologizes
Former Bucks coach Doc Rivers said on The Bill Simmons Podcast that Giannis Antetokounmpo was not easy to coach and questioned his basketball IQ. Antetokounmpo said he was speechless. Rivers later said he apologized and meant feel for the game.
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Overview
Rivers coached the Bucks from January 2024 until the team announced his departure in April 2026, with a 97-103 record, two first-round playoff exits and a 32-50 season that missed the playoffs. Rivers told Andscape at the time that leaving was his decision. Milwaukee traded Antetokounmpo to the Miami Heat before the 2026-27 season, and the Heat lost six of their first nine games. Rivers, who was inducted into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame as a coach in 2026, now works as an NBA game analyst for NBC Sports. In the same podcast segment, Rivers said Antetokounmpo wanted to leave Milwaukee but did not want to be the one to ask for a trade, and that Antetokounmpo now has a coach in Spoelstra who is as good as there is at execution. Kidd coached Antetokounmpo with the Bucks from 2014 to 2018. The quotations from the podcast are our transcription of the audio; printed accounts render one phrase as "this super IQ."
People in this case
Doc RiversDirectly involved
Giannis AntetokounmpoDirectly involved
Timeline
5 timeline entries on this page. Dates: November 6, 2026 to November 9, 2026
November 2026
Jason Kidd and Skip Bayless push back on Rivers
Reaction
On ESPN's NBA Today, Kidd says he disagrees with Rivers about Antetokounmpo's IQ. On The Stephen A. Smith Show, Bayless says Rivers should have kept his view to himself, and Smith says he felt the same way.
[01]NBA Today (ESPN): panel discusses Doc Rivers's remarks on Giannis Antetokounmpo, with Jason Kidd
ESPN's NBA Today segment on the Miami Heat. The host says Rivers's comments went viral that morning and plays the podcast clip, then asks Jason Kidd, who also coached Antetokounmpo, whether he sees what Rivers describes. Kidd says stars are hard to coach but want to be coached, and that he disagrees with what Rivers said about Antetokounmpo's IQ. Brian Windhorst and Kendrick Perkins also respond on the panel.
[02]Bleacher Report: Jason Kidd responds to Doc Rivers on Giannis Antetokounmpo
Bleacher Report quotes Kidd's answer on NBA Today and recaps Rivers's podcast remarks. It notes that Kidd coached Antetokounmpo in Milwaukee from 2014 to 2018 and Rivers from 2023 to 2026.
[03]The Stephen A. Smith Show with Skip Bayless, November 6, 2026 segment
Stephen A. Smith asks Skip Bayless about Rivers's remarks on Antetokounmpo. Bayless says he likes Rivers and that there may be truth in what Rivers said, but that he does not see what good it does Rivers to say it and thinks Rivers should have kept it to himself. Smith says he felt the same way and that he does not think Rivers meant any harm. The quoted wording is our transcription of the audio.
The Stephen A. Smith Show with Skip Bayless, November 6, 2026 segmentAbout 20:13 to 24:28[04]EssentiallySports: Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless on Doc Rivers and Giannis Antetokounmpo
EssentiallySports reports Smith's and Bayless's reactions to Rivers's remarks on The Stephen A. Smith Show and quotes Bayless saying Rivers should have kept his view to himself.
Rivers questions Antetokounmpo's basketball IQ on The Bill Simmons Podcast
Claim
In an episode released late on November 5, U.S. Eastern time, Rivers tells Bill Simmons that Antetokounmpo was not easy to coach because of his downhill pace, that he has great passing ability but not necessarily the super IQ, and that he wished Antetokounmpo had learned to execute better. Rivers also says Antetokounmpo wanted to leave Milwaukee but did not want to ask for a trade.
[05]The Bill Simmons Podcast: The Hot 76ers and an NBA Chemistry Breakdown With Doc Rivers, Plus the Mailbag and NFL Picks With Joe House
The Ringer's page for this episode of The Bill Simmons Podcast, with Doc Rivers as the first guest. In the segment on Damian Lillard and Giannis Antetokounmpo, Rivers says Antetokounmpo wanted to leave Milwaukee but did not want to be the one to ask for a trade. Simmons then says Rivers seemed to like Antetokounmpo but was also frustrated by something. Rivers answers that Antetokounmpo was not easy to coach because he plays at a crazy downhill pace, that he has great passing ability but does not necessarily have the super IQ, that he has one way of playing and wants to force it on every play, and that he wished Antetokounmpo had learned to execute better. Rivers adds that Antetokounmpo now has a coach in Erik Spoelstra who is as good as there is at execution. The quoted wording is our transcription of the audio.
The Bill Simmons Podcast: The Hot 76ers and an NBA Chemistry Breakdown With Doc Rivers, Plus the Mailbag and NFL Picks With Joe HouseSegment The Ringer's chapter list titles Dame and Giannis, which starts at 44:26[06]Bleacher Report: Doc Rivers on coaching Giannis Antetokounmpo
Bleacher Report's account of Rivers's appearance on The Bill Simmons Podcast, quoting his remarks on Antetokounmpo's pace, passing, basketball IQ and execution, and noting his view that Antetokounmpo wanted out of Milwaukee before the trade to the Miami Heat.
Spoelstra says he respects Rivers and that this is the Heat's business now
Reaction
Asked about Rivers's comments after a practice, Heat coach Erik Spoelstra tells The Athletic that he likes and respects Rivers and that this is the team's business now.
[07]Eurohoops: Erik Spoelstra on Doc Rivers's comments about coaching Giannis Antetokounmpo
Eurohoops reports Spoelstra's brief answer to The Athletic after a Saturday practice and his remarks on the Heat's defense after a 3-6 start.
[08]Bleacher Report: Erik Spoelstra on Doc Rivers's comments about Giannis Antetokounmpo
Bleacher Report, citing Eric Nehm of The Athletic, reports that Spoelstra said on Saturday that he likes and respects Rivers and that this is the Heat's business now, and that he did not want to address Rivers's comments directly.
Antetokounmpo responds after the Heat's win in Sacramento
Reaction
After the Heat beat the Kings 114-108 on the night of November 8, Pacific time, Antetokounmpo says Rivers is not his coach, that he is speechless and that reporters should ask Rivers why he said it. He tells athletes never to let bitterness or pettiness get in front of their goals.
[09]Eric Nehm's X post with video of Giannis Antetokounmpo answering a question about Doc Rivers
Nehm posts a 79-second video of Antetokounmpo after the Heat's game in Sacramento. A reporter asks how it feels to hear his former coach say he can be not so easy to coach; Antetokounmpo says Rivers is not his coach, that he is speechless, that the reporter should ask Rivers why he thought that, and that he has to focus on his team. The post text quotes part of the answer.
[10]Awful Announcing: Giannis Antetokounmpo responds to Doc Rivers
Awful Announcing transcribes Antetokounmpo's full answer after the Heat's 114-108 win over the Sacramento Kings, including his remark about bitterness and pettiness, and notes that Rivers is now an NBC analyst.
Rivers says he apologized to Antetokounmpo
Reaction
Rivers tells Andscape that he meant to say feel for the game rather than super IQ, that he texted Antetokounmpo an apology and that Antetokounmpo responded positively. He says calling Antetokounmpo not easy to coach was meant as a compliment.
[11]ESPN: Doc Rivers says he apologized to Giannis Antetokounmpo while clarifying his critique
Rivers tells Andscape's Marc J. Spears on Monday that he meant to say feel for the game rather than super IQ, that he texted Antetokounmpo an apology and that Antetokounmpo responded positively. He says calling Antetokounmpo not easy to coach was meant as a compliment about building a team around a great player. The story also quotes Antetokounmpo's Sunday answer.
Claims
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What's disputed
Disputed claim
Giannis Antetokounmpo was difficult to coach and does not necessarily have a high basketball IQ, relying on one way of playing: attacking downhill and forcing the action.
What is disputed
Rivers made the assessment on The Bill Simmons Podcast. Jason Kidd, who coached Antetokounmpo from 2014 to 2018, said he disagreed with it and that Antetokounmpo understands how to play the game. On November 9, Rivers told Andscape that he had meant feel for the game rather than IQ, and that calling Antetokounmpo not easy to coach was meant as a compliment about building a team around a great player.
Sources (3)
- The Bill Simmons Podcast: The Hot 76ers and an NBA Chemistry Breakdown With Doc Rivers, Plus the Mailbag and NFL Picks With Joe HouseSegment The Ringer's chapter list titles Dame and Giannis, which starts at 44:26
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Giannis AntetokounmpoMiami Heat forward, speaking to reporters after a game against the Utah JazzDirectly involvedBefore this statement
Rivers had told ESPN that he texted Antetokounmpo an apology. Asked whether he received it, Antetokounmpo says he has not looked at his phone and that any text would stay between the two of them.
"He made those comments. He had those quotes. You guys gotta go ask him what he meant ... If you feel like he has to clarify, you know, that’s on him. It’s not on me."
Explicitly stayed outResponding to: Giannis Antetokounmpo was difficult to coach and does not necessarily have a high basketball IQ, relying on one way of playing: attacking downhill and forcing the action.
Full statement and sources
Asked about Rivers's reported text apology, Antetokounmpo says Rivers made the comments and should be asked what he meant, and that any clarification is up to Rivers.
After the statement
Antetokounmpo says his conversations with coaches, teammates, family and friends are private and that he never shares them in the media.
Why this label?
Antetokounmpo will not discuss Rivers's reported apology, says any text between them is private and leaves it to Rivers to explain what he meant, so we labeled it Explicitly stayed out.
This label describes the statement's response within the context above.
- Giannis AntetokounmpoMiami Heat forward, speaking to reporters after a game against the Sacramento KingsDirectly involved
Before this statement
After the Heat's 114-108 win over the Kings in Sacramento, a reporter asks Antetokounmpo how it feels to hear his former coach say he can be not so easy to coach. Antetokounmpo says Rivers is not his coach, that his coach is Erik Spoelstra and that he is speechless. He says reporters should ask Rivers why he thought that, that it is on Rivers and not on him, and that he has to focus on his team.
"Never let bitterness or pettiness get in front of your goals and dreams."
CondemnedResponding to: Giannis Antetokounmpo was difficult to coach and does not necessarily have a high basketball IQ, relying on one way of playing: attacking downhill and forcing the action.
Full statement and sources
Antetokounmpo says Rivers is not his coach, that he is speechless and that reporters should ask Rivers why he said it, then tells athletes never to let bitterness or pettiness get in front of their goals.
After the statement
He says it is insane and repeats that reporters should ask Rivers, not him, why Rivers said what he said.
Why this label?
The reference point is Doc Rivers's remarks on The Bill Simmons Podcast that Antetokounmpo was not easy to coach and does not necessarily have the super IQ. Antetokounmpo calls the remarks crazy, says they are on Rivers and not on him, and answers them with a warning against bitterness and pettiness. That criticizes the remarks themselves rather than only disputing how his play is described.
This label describes the statement's response within the context above.
Doc RiversNBC Sports NBA analyst and former Milwaukee Bucks head coach, speaking to AndscapeDirectly involvedBefore this statement
Rivers tells Andscape that he meant to say feel for the game instead of super IQ, that he felt bad about the error and that he texted Antetokounmpo an apology, to which Antetokounmpo responded positively. He says he was describing Antetokounmpo as one of the most interesting players.
"He makes unbelievable passes, but then at times, because of his force he plays at, it gets in the way of his feel. It was more of a compliment. I hate this and feel bad about it. I apologize for the distraction. I'm not trying to be one."
Mixed or conditionalResponding to: Giannis Antetokounmpo was difficult to coach and does not necessarily have a high basketball IQ, relying on one way of playing: attacking downhill and forcing the action.
Full statement and sources
Rivers says Antetokounmpo makes unbelievable passes but that the force he plays with sometimes gets in the way of his feel, calls the remark more of a compliment, says he feels bad and apologizes for the distraction.
After the statement
Rivers says calling Antetokounmpo not easy to coach was meant as a compliment: with a great player, a coach has to fit the team around that player, and that is not always easy. He also says positive things he said about Antetokounmpo on the podcast were overlooked.
Why this label?
The reference point is Doc Rivers's remarks on The Bill Simmons Podcast that Antetokounmpo was not easy to coach and does not necessarily have the super IQ. Rivers says he feels bad, apologizes for the distraction and, according to Andscape, texted Antetokounmpo an apology. He also restates that the force Antetokounmpo plays with sometimes gets in the way of his feel and calls the remarks a compliment. He regrets the wording and the attention while keeping the substance of his assessment, so the statement combines an apology with a defense of what he meant.
This label describes the statement's response within the context above.
Sources
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Original video
The Bill Simmons Podcast: The Hot 76ers and an NBA Chemistry Breakdown With Doc Rivers, Plus the Mailbag and NFL Picks With Joe House
Relevant passage: Segment The Ringer's chapter list titles Dame and Giannis, which starts at 44:26
About this source
The Ringer's page for this episode of The Bill Simmons Podcast, with Doc Rivers as the first guest. In the segment on Damian Lillard and Giannis Antetokounmpo, Rivers says Antetokounmpo wanted to leave Milwaukee but did not want to be the one to ask for a trade. Simmons then says Rivers seemed to like Antetokounmpo but was also frustrated by something. Rivers answers that Antetokounmpo was not easy to coach because he plays at a crazy downhill pace, that he has great passing ability but does not necessarily have the super IQ, that he has one way of playing and wants to force it on every play, and that he wished Antetokounmpo had learned to execute better. Rivers adds that Antetokounmpo now has a coach in Erik Spoelstra who is as good as there is at execution. The quoted wording is our transcription of the audio.
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- Bill Simmons (host), with guest Doc Rivers
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Reporting
As Heat regain stride, Giannis doesn't want to hear about Doc or wrist injury
Relevant passage: Full article
About this source
Sun Sentinel report from Salt Lake City quoting Antetokounmpo after the Heat's win over the Utah Jazz on his wrist, the team's start and Rivers's reported text apology.
- Author
- Ira Winderman, South Florida Sun Sentinel
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- Accessed
Reporting
'Very Difficult To Be out There With Giannis (Antetokounmpo),' 'Why We Love Him' - Carmelo Anthony Reacts to Doc Rivers' Harsh Dig at Heat Star
Relevant passage: Full article
About this source
Pro Football Network report, carried by Yahoo Sports, quoting Anthony's podcast remarks on Rivers and Antetokounmpo.
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- Rohit De, Pro Football Network
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Original video
Melo Gives His REAL Take on Tatum & Brown's Issues, QUESTIONS Doc Rivers & Wemby's MVP Chase
About this source
Episode of Anthony's podcast in which a co-host asks why coaches are quick to blame players and Anthony responds to Rivers's comments about Antetokounmpo.
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- 7PM in Brooklyn with Carmelo Anthony
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Reporting
"Players Should Start Talking Crazy Too": Draymond Green Warns Doc Rivers and Kings HC After Giannis Antetokounmpo Jab
Relevant passage: Full article
About this source
EssentiallySports report, carried by Yahoo Sports, quoting Green's podcast remarks on Rivers and Christie at length.
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- Caroline John, EssentiallySports
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Original video
Draymond Green on Warriors 8-Game Win Streak, Jordan Poole's Return Comments & Doc Rivers vs Giannis
About this source
Episode of Green's podcast in which he discusses Rivers's comments about Antetokounmpo and Kings coach Doug Christie's remarks after the Heat's win in Sacramento.
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- The Draymond Green Show
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Interview
ESPN: Doc Rivers says he apologized to Giannis Antetokounmpo while clarifying his critique
About this source
Rivers tells Andscape's Marc J. Spears on Monday that he meant to say feel for the game rather than super IQ, that he texted Antetokounmpo an apology and that Antetokounmpo responded positively. He says calling Antetokounmpo not easy to coach was meant as a compliment about building a team around a great player. The story also quotes Antetokounmpo's Sunday answer.
- Author
- Marc J. Spears
- Published
- Accessed
Reporting
Awful Announcing: Giannis Antetokounmpo responds to Doc Rivers
About this source
Awful Announcing transcribes Antetokounmpo's full answer after the Heat's 114-108 win over the Sacramento Kings, including his remark about bitterness and pettiness, and notes that Rivers is now an NBC analyst.
- Author
- Brandon Contes
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- Accessed
Original post
Eric Nehm's X post with video of Giannis Antetokounmpo answering a question about Doc Rivers
Giannis Antetokounmpo answers a question about Doc Rivers's comments after the Miami Heat's game in Sacramento on the night of November 8, 2026, Pacific time.
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Video: Eric Nehm, The Athletic, via X. Excerpt used for news reporting and commentary
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About this source
Nehm posts a 79-second video of Antetokounmpo after the Heat's game in Sacramento. A reporter asks how it feels to hear his former coach say he can be not so easy to coach; Antetokounmpo says Rivers is not his coach, that he is speechless, that the reporter should ask Rivers why he thought that, and that he has to focus on his team. The post text quotes part of the answer.
- Author
- Eric Nehm (The Athletic)
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- Accessed
Reporting
Bleacher Report: Erik Spoelstra on Doc Rivers's comments about Giannis Antetokounmpo
About this source
Bleacher Report, citing Eric Nehm of The Athletic, reports that Spoelstra said on Saturday that he likes and respects Rivers and that this is the Heat's business now, and that he did not want to address Rivers's comments directly.
- Author
- Scott Polacek
- Published
- Accessed
Reporting
Eurohoops: Erik Spoelstra on Doc Rivers's comments about coaching Giannis Antetokounmpo
About this source
Eurohoops reports Spoelstra's brief answer to The Athletic after a Saturday practice and his remarks on the Heat's defense after a 3-6 start.
- Author
- Nikola Miloradovic
- Published
- Accessed
Reporting
EssentiallySports: Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless on Doc Rivers and Giannis Antetokounmpo
About this source
EssentiallySports reports Smith's and Bayless's reactions to Rivers's remarks on The Stephen A. Smith Show and quotes Bayless saying Rivers should have kept his view to himself.
- Author
- Shahul Hameed
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Original video
The Stephen A. Smith Show with Skip Bayless, November 6, 2026 segment
About this source
Stephen A. Smith asks Skip Bayless about Rivers's remarks on Antetokounmpo. Bayless says he likes Rivers and that there may be truth in what Rivers said, but that he does not see what good it does Rivers to say it and thinks Rivers should have kept it to himself. Smith says he felt the same way and that he does not think Rivers meant any harm. The quoted wording is our transcription of the audio.
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- The Stephen A. Smith Show
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- Accessed
Reporting
Bleacher Report: Jason Kidd responds to Doc Rivers on Giannis Antetokounmpo
About this source
Bleacher Report quotes Kidd's answer on NBA Today and recaps Rivers's podcast remarks. It notes that Kidd coached Antetokounmpo in Milwaukee from 2014 to 2018 and Rivers from 2023 to 2026.
- Author
- Zach Bachar
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- Accessed
Original video
NBA Today (ESPN): panel discusses Doc Rivers's remarks on Giannis Antetokounmpo, with Jason Kidd
About this source
ESPN's NBA Today segment on the Miami Heat. The host says Rivers's comments went viral that morning and plays the podcast clip, then asks Jason Kidd, who also coached Antetokounmpo, whether he sees what Rivers describes. Kidd says stars are hard to coach but want to be coached, and that he disagrees with what Rivers said about Antetokounmpo's IQ. Brian Windhorst and Kendrick Perkins also respond on the panel.
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- ESPN, NBA Today
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- Accessed
Reporting
Bleacher Report: Doc Rivers on coaching Giannis Antetokounmpo
About this source
Bleacher Report's account of Rivers's appearance on The Bill Simmons Podcast, quoting his remarks on Antetokounmpo's pace, passing, basketball IQ and execution, and noting his view that Antetokounmpo wanted out of Milwaukee before the trade to the Miami Heat.
- Author
- Mike Chiari
- Published
- Accessed
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