Thom discloses a related episode, questions OpenAI researchers' academic standards

Andreas ThomMathematician, TU Dresden

Mathematician Andreas Thom, in a guest post on Terence Tao's blog, said he asked OpenAI researchers Mark Sellke and Sébastien Bubeck whether conversations he and a colleague had with ChatGPT about his research were part of the training data or accessible to the model's reasoning process, and that Sellke denied it. Thom calls that denial materially misleading in light of OpenAI's later statement in the Buckmaster-Alpöge case that it could not rule out that de-identified usage data helped improve its models. He also writes that Bubeck's acknowledged career-related remark to Buckmaster and his objection to including Alpöge in a proposed paper presenting OpenAI's proof "deepen my concern about their commitment to academic standards."

“deepen my concern about their commitment to academic standards”

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Did OpenAI improperly pressure mathematicians over authorship and credit?

Tristan Buckmaster describes pressure over authorship and publication during discussions about competing AI-assisted mathematics results. Sébastien Bubeck disputes that characterization and says the proposed authorship concerned OpenAI's own proof. His apology for career-related wording does not settle the disagreement. Researchers and commentators divide over whether the negotiations were appropriate, while raising a separate dispute about the treatment of unpublished user research.

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Andreas Thom guest post on Terence Tao's blog: on the existence of non-sofic groups (opens in a new tab)

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Guest post by Andreas Thom on Terence Tao's blog, disclosing a related episode involving OpenAI researchers Mark Sellke and Sébastien Bubeck and unpublished conversations about a separate math problem.

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Guest post on Terence Tao's blog disclosing a related episode after OpenAI's August "non-sofic groups" result.

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Thom's account concerns a different problem (non-sofic groups) than Navier-Stokes, but bears on the same researchers' conduct toward unpublished outside research.

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Thom calls Sellke's denial materially misleading and says Bubeck's acknowledged career-related remark to Buckmaster and his objection to including Alpöge in a proposed paper "deepen my concern about their commitment to academic standards," adding that these episodes together raise serious questions about their judgment and personal integrity. That is a direct condemnation relevant to the case's pattern-of-conduct question.

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Correction to: Statement by Andreas Thom

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Sellke denied it -- a denial Thom argues was later shown misleading by OpenAI's own admission in the Buckmaster-Alpöge case -- saying this "deepens my concern about their commitment to academic standards."
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Thom calls that denial materially misleading in light of OpenAI's later statement in the Buckmaster-Alpöge case that it could not rule out that de-identified usage data helped improve its models. He also writes that Bubeck's acknowledged career-related remark to Buckmaster and his objection to including Alpöge in a proposed paper presenting OpenAI's proof "deepen my concern about their commitment to academic standards."

An earlier version of this entry said Sellke's denial led Thom to write that it "deepens" his concern about academic standards. In his post, Thom ties that concern to Bubeck's career-related remark to Buckmaster and to his objection to including Alpöge in the proposed paper. We corrected the summary and restored Thom's exact words.

This corrects our account of what happened.

Andreas Thom guest post on Terence Tao's blog: on the existence of non-sofic groups (opens in a new tab)

Guest post by Andreas Thom on Terence Tao's blog, disclosing a related episode involving OpenAI researchers Mark Sellke and Sébastien Bubeck and unpublished conversations about a separate math problem.

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