Pouyanne says the payment is "my money" coming back, not taxpayer funds

Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, TotalEnergies

“my money that I gave in '22 to the Treasury, which is coming back”
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Canary Media report on legal questions surrounding the TotalEnergies settlement, including CEO Patrick Pouyanne's CNBC remarks and a former BOEM director's rebuttal.

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Pouyanne spoke to CNBC at the CERAWeek energy conference in Houston, days after Interior announced the settlement agreement.

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A former BOEM director, Elizabeth Klein, disputed the characterization, saying the lease payments became federal funds once TotalEnergies won the leases.

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Responding to: The payment TotalEnergies is receiving is not taxpayer money but the return of funds the company itself paid to the Treasury for its leases in 2022.

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Pouyanne defends the payment's legitimacy by characterizing it as the return of the company's own funds rather than an improper use of public money, directly addressing the taxpayer-cost objection at the center of the Judgment Fund dispute.

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