Whitehouse says the first Trump administration's Justice Department also "obtained toll records of members of Congress"

Sheldon WhitehouseU.S. senator from Rhode Island and member of the Senate Judiciary Committee; former U.S. attorney

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Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse's questions to former special counsel Jack Smith on toll records, at the Senate Judiciary Committee's Sept. 29, 2026 hearing.

Excerpt from 4:04:04 to 4:09:22 of the committee's archived hearing video. DI added its logo in the corner.

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In his questioning of Smith, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse said some of what had taken place at the hearing reflected a lack of familiarity with standard Justice Department procedures, and said the Justice Department in the first Trump administration also obtained toll records of members of Congress before Smith did. Smith agreed that his office obtained nondisclosure orders and said he understood the earlier investigation had done the same.

“reflects a lack of familiarity with standard Department of Justice procedures. ... Because before you obtained toll records of members of Congress, the Department of Justice under President Trump, in his first administration, obtained toll records of members of Congress.”

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Watch the original video (opens in a new tab)Oversight of Jack Smith's Abuse of Authority and the Targeting of Republicans and Related Matters (hearing video) · Senate Committee on the JudiciarySen. Sheldon Whitehouse's questions to Smith on toll records, about 4:04:07 to 4:09:20 on the archived video timeline

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Were members of Congress's phone records and text messages properly obtained in the Arctic Frost and Jack Smith investigations?

On September 29, 2026, the Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing titled "Oversight of Jack Smith's Abuse of Authority and the Targeting of Republicans and Related Matters," with former special counsel Jack Smith as its only witness. Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and other Republicans said that Smith's team, in the FBI's Arctic Frost investigation and its own election case, obtained members of Congress's phone toll records and text messages, used nondisclosure orders to keep members from learning of it, and breached the Speech or Debate Clause. Smith said the toll records were non-content records obtained after he directed his staff to consult the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section, and that the nondisclosure orders were consistent with the law and Justice Department policy at the time. Ranking Member Dick Durbin (D-IL) called the attacks on Smith "petty, personal, and political." The sides and the documents give different counts of the members affected. The dispute is whether the collection of members' phone records and messages was proper.

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Oversight of Jack Smith's Abuse of Authority and the Targeting of Republicans and Related Matters (hearing video) (opens in a new tab) · Senate Committee on the JudiciarySen. Sheldon Whitehouse's questions to Smith on toll records, about 4:04:07 to 4:09:20 on the archived video timeline

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Senate Judiciary Committee's archived video of the September 29, 2026 hearing. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) compared Smith's toll-record subpoenas and nondisclosure orders with those of the Justice Department in the first Trump administration.

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Whitehouse opened his time by saying he had served four years as a United States attorney and had worked on public corruption investigations.

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Whitehouse asked Smith to explain the difference between a wiretap and a toll record. Smith said toll records show who a call was from, who it was to and its duration, not its content, and agreed that his office had subpoenaed Republicans' toll records where the earlier investigation had subpoenaed Democrats'.

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Defended or excused

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The case asks whether the collection of members' phone records and messages was proper. Whitehouse said some of what had taken place at the hearing reflected unfamiliarity with standard Justice Department procedures and compared the collection with the first Trump administration's own acquisition of members' toll records. That defends the collection as ordinary practice, so we labeled it Defended or excused.

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